Sober Not Mature

Episodes

SoberNotMature - Episode 204 (Jim O. - Mucking Out Our Stalls)
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Jan. 17, 2026

SoberNotMature - Episode 204 (Jim O. - Mucking Out Our Stalls)

This week we have... Jim O’Connor. Jim is the founder and executive director of the Second Story Foundation, where he leads long-term recovery and workforce programs for men rebuilding their lives after substance use disorder. After experiencing homelessness and severe alcoholism, O’Connor entered recovery in 2016, an experience that reshaped his life and approach to healing. Drawing on both lived experience and professional training as a Certified Alcohol and Drug Counselor, he developed recove...
SoberNotMature - Episode 203 (Your Favorite Time Suck)
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Jan. 10, 2026

SoberNotMature - Episode 203 (Your Favorite Time Suck)

This week we have... Change of plans! Jermaine had a family situation and a technology glitch, so he will join us at the end of the month. You are stuck with Mike and Bill and we are determined to be Your Favorite Time Suck. Mike started out with his reading and it was one of our favorites from 24 Hours A Day and from January 6th. We have talked about it before, but we do explain the importance of the reading. We jumped into the show Mad Men, faith and determination, Bill Burr, wasted time, earl...
SoberNotMature - Episode 202 (Glimmering Old Guys)
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Jan. 3, 2026

SoberNotMature - Episode 202 (Glimmering Old Guys)

This week we have... A New Year with Mike and Bill! Same old stuff, different year. Mike started out with his reading and it was about blame and hiding. We were always good at that before we got sober and it could be an easy trap to fall back into. It was a good conversation. We chatted about some medical stuff, New Year's Resolutions, Dry January, Mike's trip to see classic stuff from MAD Magazine, triggers and glimmers, detaching, expressing your feelings, geographicals, Jim Beam shutting down...
SoberNotMature - Episode 201 (Comparing Ourselves To Others)
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Dec. 27, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 201 (Comparing Ourselves To Others)

This week we have... Same old hosts, different week. Mike started out with his reading and it was about allowing others to give and not being afraid to ask for help. Those can be hard things for people like us and it was a good conversation. There was a horrible (but funny) holiday story, we heard a great quote about fear, talked about faith over fear, the show Brockmire, comparing ourselves to others, and people on the bubble. We also talked about Rob Reiner and his wife. It's a tragic event an...
SoberNotMature - Episode 200 (Jeremy Pierson - We're His Ellen)
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Dec. 20, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 200 (Jeremy Pierson - We're His Ellen)

This week we have... Jeremy Pierson - @jeremylpierson - Spiritual Coach & Founder, Practical Spirituality Dedicated to helping people live more consciously, peacefully, and purposefully by applying spiritual principles in everyday life. "Practical Spirituality " explores topics like self-awareness, emotional healing, intuition, energy clearing, and personal transformation - all without the need to adopt someone else's beliefs. We truly enjoyed our conversation with Jeremy and we know that you wi...
SoberNotMature - Episode 199 (Let's Party Like It's 199)
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Dec. 13, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 199 (Let's Party Like It's 199)

This week we have... Mike and Bill and no issues with the recording! We have had a great experience with Zencastr in general, but it was nice to be back to "normal." Let's Party Like It's 199! Or just more of the same. Mike started out with his reading and it was about the past. What was it like before we got sober? What did we gain with sobriety? The positives definitely outweigh the negatives and it was a good conversation. We chatted about the break even point, getting results, Dick Van Dyke ...
SoberNotMature - Episode 198 (What's The Alternative?)
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Dec. 13, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 198 (What's The Alternative?)

This week we have... Yep, it's a "normal" week with Mike and Bill. At least it's our version of "normal." Mike started out with his reading and it was about Practicing These Principals In All Our Affairs. Honesty and integrity. Other people being able to count on us and being able to count on ourselves. A great topic and a great conversation. We jumped into how people look at good years and bad years, Danny Trejo, thinking about drinking and slips, a surgery wrap up, Joe Rogan and Jeremy Renner,...
SoberNotMature - Episode Delay
Dec. 6, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode Delay

"The park is closed, the moose out from should have told you." The great John Candy from the movie, Vacation. But seriously, we are having an issue with our recording studio and apparently they have an issue with their server. The episode for this week is recorded, but Zencastr needs to fix the problem and then we will be able to upload the episode. Stay tuned and thank you for your patience! Visit us Podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
SoberNotMature - Episode 197 (Why Don't You Just Smell it?)
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Nov. 29, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 197 (Why Don't You Just Smell it?)

This week we have... The Gratitude Episode! (With Mike and Bill) To be completely honest, we didn't fall over ourselves trying to make this just a Gratitude Episode. We try to live that way every day and hopefully it shows. Mike started out with his reading and it was about saying thank you. Those are two very simple words, but do we use them enough? Do we truly appreciate when someone is kind to us? It takes work to be kind and we should say thank you more often. It was a good topic. We talked ...
SoberNotMature - Episode 196 (Where Do You Keep The Knives?)
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Nov. 22, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 196 (Where Do You Keep The Knives?)

This week we have... Mike and Bill, doing this thing that they do. Mike started out with something a little different. It was reading, but it was actually from a speech that Dr. Bob gave in Cleveland, in July of 1950. He talked about AA, the simplicity of the program and keeping it that way. He also talked about kindness, consideration and tolerance. It was a great thing to hear and discuss. We chatted about family events. Mike was with family last weekend for an early Thanksgiving and Bill was ...
SoberNotMature - Episode 195 (This Is The Little One 'Lizabeth)
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Nov. 15, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 195 (This Is The Little One 'Lizabeth)

This week we have... Yep, it's us again, Mike and Bill. And buckle up, because we had a lot to talk about. Mike started out with his reading and it was about letting go and hanging on. Which is better and which is worse? Could they be interchangeable? It was a great topic and we had a good conversation. Then we had a brief conversation about John Candy. There is a documentary out now about his life and we are both fans. We don't know if he was an alcoholic or if maybe he just had addictive tende...
SoberNotMature - Episode 194 (Megan Swan - Marinating In Chaos)
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Nov. 8, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 194 (Megan Swan - Marinating In Chaos)

This week we have... Megan Swan @meganswanwellness She's a fellow Sober Curator and has a few other things going on in her life. Megan Swan is the founder and CEO of Megan Swan Wellness and Altavita Medical Wellness Tourism, an integrative wellness coach, author, and podcast host who works with high-impact women globally. She champions wellness-alignment as the wave of the future—a non-negotiable strategy in both life and business.With fifteen years of experience in the wellness industry, Megan ...
SoberNotMature - Episode 193 (Beth McDonough - Standby)
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Nov. 1, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 193 (Beth McDonough - Standby)

This week we have... Beth McDonough @bemcdn She is a seasoned journalist and investigative reporter whose career spanned some of the nation’s largest television markets, from Houston and Philadelphia to Minneapolis and Missouri. She is also the author of the book Standby. ( On sale now on Amazon ) McDonough says it recounts her public downfall, taking readers behind the headlines of her jail time and arrests.Today, she lives in southern Utah surrounded by red rock mountains and five national par...
SoberNotMature - Episode 192 (Burnt Grits)
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Oct. 25, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 192 (Burnt Grits)

This week we have... Both Mike and Bill again! Mike is back and we had plenty to catch up on. Mike started off with his reading and it was all about faith. Following those that came before us, taking suggestions that didn't make sense to us, acting "as if." It was a good reading and a good conversation. Then we chatted about opinions and trust, the purpose of our lives, judging people and resentments and is this thing that we do a miracle or not? For those that don't know, Ace Frehley from Kiss ...
SoberNotMature - Episode 191 (Tony H. - It's All About The Art Of Living)
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Oct. 18, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 191 (Tony H. - It's All About The Art Of Living)

This week we have... Tony H! @a_stoic_sobriety Tony is an IT executive by day and a writer by night, sharing his journey of sobriety through his blog A Stoic Sobriety. With 36 years of sobriety, he focuses on 12-Step recovery principles combined with Stoic Philosophy. Tony offers practical wisdom and encouragement to those seeking freedom from addiction. Don’t let the Stoicism fool you; he insists on making sobriety fun and can cry with the best of them. We had a great conversation and make sure...
SoberNotMature - Episode 190 (Let's Go Spelunking)
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Oct. 11, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 190 (Let's Go Spelunking)

This week we have... Mike and Bill! Are you surprised? Mike was, so you are not alone. Mike started out with his reading and it was about change and staying fresh in this thing that we do. We act differently, work our program differently and we grow as people. At least we should. It was a good conversation. We also chatted about service work, did we hate what alcohol was doing to us, getting booze in hard times and a recap of some Charlie Sheen stuff. There is the documentary on Netflix, the boo...
SoberNotMature - Episode 189 (Betty G.- Balancing Our Buddhas)
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Oct. 4, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 189 (Betty G.- Balancing Our Buddhas)

This week we have... Betty G - @buddha.betty Betty knows what rock bottom looks like. Before 2019 her days were a blur of heroin, street hustle, and heartbreak—with the unthinkable pain of losing both parents to suicide. Then a single, life-shaking moment changed everything: a near-death-like experience during an overdose that sent her through a cosmic replay of her life, face-to-face with loved ones on the other side, and straight into a crash course on her soul’s pre-game plan. She woke up rea...
SoberNotMature - Episode 188 (Death Doula Mara - The Grim Reaperess)
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Sept. 27, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 188 (Death Doula Mara - The Grim Reaperess)

This week we have... Our good friend Mara @marajsankin from Cleveland and from Episode 94 . (Check out that episode to hear her full story) This time she is with us to talk about what she does for a living and about her new business venture. The episode is all about death, in the best way possible, and Mara explains how it is her mission to help people die with dignity. This is an episode that is unlike anything we have done before and a sincere thank to Mara for being our guide. Enjoy the episo...
SoberNotMature - Episode 187 (This Episode Will Kill You)
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Sept. 20, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 187 (This Episode Will Kill You)

This week we have... Episode Murder. Yes! It's Episode 187 and This Episode Will Kill You. Or at least make you laugh. Or smile. Or something. Mike started out with his reading and it was about role models and copying what good people do. We needed that when we got sober and had the privilege of having many good role models. Then it was Jamie Lee Curtis, Lost In Space, things we should change, a baby shower, expecting the worst, not haters, AA membership and Charlie Sheen. And there is a joke ab...
SoberNotMature - Bonus Clip (A Reading With Mike)
Sept. 15, 2025

SoberNotMature - Bonus Clip (A Reading With Mike)

Yes! It's a Bonus Clip! This is a clip from Episode 186 and it isolates the readings (yes, he did 2 this week) that Mike did on the episode. Mike did his homework and picked out a couple of readings that fit the "mood" of the week, but more importantly, fit with what we believe and how we feel. If you listen closely, you will hear what he is trying to say. Enjoy the clip. Visit us Podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.sobernotm...
SoberNotMature - Episode 186 (Don't Be A Dick)
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Sept. 13, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 186 (Don't Be A Dick)

This week we have... Mike and Bill, with a lot to talk about. It was a weird week, but it gets sliced up and laid out in the only way that we know how. Mike started out and actually did a couple of readings this week. They were short, but they had a point to them. The main lesson is what we try to live by; Try to make your corner of the world a little better today and there are solutions. Danger Moose and The Cheese are retired. For now. We had some announcements about a friend, an ex-wife and a...
SoberNotMature - Episode 185 (Danger Moose & The Cheese In The Morning)
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Sept. 6, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 185 (Danger Moose & The Cheese In The Morning)

This week we have... A change in plans! Yes, we had our good friend Kate scheduled, but there was a technology issue, so you are stuck with Mike and Bill. We will have Kate on a some point though. We promise. Mike started off with his reading and it was about Fear, Faith and Courage. Things scared us in early recovery, and we still get scared, but we have the tools to deal with all of it. And do it all sober. It was a good conversation. Next, we introduced 2 new characters; Danger Moose & The Ch...
SoberNotMature - Episode 184 (Lunch At The Caucasian Container)
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Aug. 30, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 184 (Lunch At The Caucasian Container)

This week we have... Mike and Bill on Hump Day! Yes, we have plans this weekend, so we recorded early. Not that it matters, but we are telling you either way. Mike kicked things off with his reading and it was about life on life's terms. Things happen (good, bad and indifferent), but how we handle those things is what matters. Do we want to be part of the problem or part of the solution? It was a good talk. We chatted about the Cracker Barrel (who hasn't, right?) and yes, that was the inspiratio...
SoberNotMature - Episode 183 (Coming Out Of Those GD Uptempo Records)
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Aug. 23, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 183 (Coming Out Of Those GD Uptempo Records)

This week we have... First of all, Mike is back! And secondly, it's the Season 7 Finale! Do you care? Just a little? Well, we started our a little punchy, but of course in a fun way. And we had a lot to talk about. Mike was back with his reading and it was a really good one. It was about relationships, both in and out of recovery and it hit home with us. It was a great conversation. Then we did a wrap up of our family trip, talked about Marc Maron, memes, a best man, dial-up internet, getting co...