Episodes
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May 16, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 221 (Hanging Around A Heaven Cart)
This week we have... You guessed it! Your pals Mike and Bill are with you this week, with plenty to talk about. Mike started out with his reading and it was about being overly competitive, trying to conquer things (and people) and living life like it's a game of winners and losers. That was our old selves and thankfully, we are different today. It was a good conversation. Happy Birthday to Mike's granddaughter, Lydia! She turned 18 today, which is very cool, but also mind blowing. We...
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May 9, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 220 (Wet & Reckless Mothers)
This week we have... Mike and Bill! Justin has been rescheduled for May 22nd and we had a chance to let loose tonight. Mike started off with his reading and it was about our thoughts and when we should or should not reveal them. It's all about choices and consequences and we certainly make better choices these days. It was a good conversation. It's Mother's Day weekend, so Happy Mother's Day to all of the sober mom's! For the rest of us, do something nice for your mom this weekend. She ...
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May 2, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 219 (Two Old Men Discussing Their Ailments)
This week we have... Mike and Bill are back this week, to have some fun and to fill some time. Mike started off with his reading and it was about control. It's something that "we" all want, but realize we can't have it. It's an illusion and it's dangerous. It was a good conversation. We acknowledged an anniversary, did a recap of our weekend in Cleveland, talked about sitting alone, Anthony Kiedis, medicinal marijuana and going deeper in sobriety. We wrapped up with an article and ab...
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April 25, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 218 (Lane K. - Unraveling Our Helixes)
This week we have... Lane Kennedy (@lane_kennedy_) Lane Kennedy is a Calm Living Docent and stress management expert specializing in helping burned-out professionals and stressed parents stop stressing through DNA wellness and nervous system regulation. She is a trauma-informed mindfulness teacher with 15+ years of experience in MBSR, breathwork, and functional genomics — and the author of Sobriety for Dummies. We had a wonderful conversation with Lane, talked about a lot of differen...
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April 17, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 217 (Parking Lot Clown Show)
This week we have... Yep, you guessed it. Your hosts, Mike and Bill are back at it this week, with plenty to talk about. Mike started off with his reading and it was about the shortcuts and the excuses of our past, versus the people we are today. We tell the truth, we are accountable and we have good values. Most of the time. It was a good conversation. Then it was dealing with difficult people, a nice comment from a fan, The 4th Step, celebrities that fall and then go get better, The K...
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April 11, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 216 (Heather - Wandering Weightlessly in the 216)
This week we have... Heather - Our friend from Cleveland and her business is WanderingWeightlessly.com We all know that early sobriety can feel like you're carrying a 50-pound suitcase of 'what ifs.' What if I can’t have fun anymore? What if I never travel again? Our friend over at Wandering Weightlessly is proof that life actually gets lighter after the bottle. She’s a sober, single mom by choice, and a Certified accessible travel pro. She’s out here showing us that you don't need a dr...
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April 4, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 215 (Mehmet The Rodeo Clown)
This week we have... Mike and Bill, back at it. We had great guests for the past couple of weeks, but we are back to basics this week. Mike started out with his reading and it had a springtime theme. New growth, new beginnings and shedding our old skin. We can't always see the changes as they are happening, but we are constantly evolving. Or at least we should be. It was a good conversation. Then it was gratitude, 8675309, Dr. Oz and his new drinking guidelines, emails and messages, a f...
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March 28, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 214 (Jacob S. - Functional Medicine & Disfunctional Podcasters)
This week we have... Jacob S. @feel_sober_good A Grateful Liver Cirrhosis Survivor & Sobriety Advocate, who was able to recover without a liver transplant using Functional Medicine. His goal now is to provide alcohol free support, stay accountable, & share what helped him. Sobriety has been life changing, and now he's recovering out loud hoping to help anyone silently struggling. We learned a lot tonight and you will too. Enjoy the episode. Vote For Us - Best Podcast Through...
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March 21, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 213 (Andrew R. - Pirate's Treasure AKA Booty)
This week we have... Andrew R. @anothermanstreasuredotco Andrew is in long-term recovery, and is building a mission-driven resale marketplace called Another Man’s Treasure. The business is designed to donate 50% of every sale to charity and they aim to “recover treasures by recovering people.” We had a great conversation with him and he's out there do good things! Enjoy the episode. Visit Andrew Instagram @anothermanstreasuredotco Website Another Man's Treasure https://anot...
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March 14, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 212 (Gooey Frappes & Brain Worms)
This week we have... Mike and Bill. Your hosts. You know, it's us! Back at it with plenty to talk about. Mike started out with his reading and it was about growth and wisdom. Hopefully as we sober up and over time, we start to grow and continue to grow. A little wisdom is nice also. It was a good conversation. We chatted about daylight savings, the friendly world, and loving oneself. We also tried to record a promo for a friend of ours. Listen to the mess and then visit her website: ...
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March 7, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 211 (Ryan T.R. - A Colonel Of Truth)
This week we have... Ryan T. Reichert @ryan.t.reichert Ryan T. Reichert, a born-again Christian, author, speaker, and servant leader whose life has been defined by purpose, resilience, and redemption. A retired Lieutenant Colonel with 23 years of military service, including airborne, ranger, and multiple combat deployments, Ryan brings hard-won insights on leadership, discipline, and transformation. After his military career, he served in the Fortune 500 world, gaining deep experience i...
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Feb. 28, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 210 (Four Years Of Blowing Hard)
This week we have... It's our 4 Year Podcast Anniversary Spectacular! (with Mike and Bill, of course) Mike started off with his reading and it was focused on honesty. We were not truthful, we believed our own BS and we had very little integrity. Until we got sober. It was a good reading and a good conversation. And yes! We have been doing this podcast thing for 4 years already. We talked about the beginning a little bit, a fun email that we received early on and dug into the type of "fo...
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Feb. 21, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 209 (The Infinite Doom Scroll)
This week we have... The end of Season 8 and yep, it's Mike and Bill. Mike started off with his reading and it was about the Why and the How and also having a sense of purpose. Life can get weird, but we have the tools and the foundation to deal with all of it. We had a good conversation. Then we chatted about getting pulled over, Mardi Gras and a drunken celebrity, How It Works, service work, making friends, remembering the madness, voting and The Infinite Doom Scroll. We also recap...
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Feb. 14, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 208 (It's A Major Award [Nomination])
This week we have... Mike and Bill and we have an announcement! Read on... Mike started off with his reading and it was about lost time, but also about better late than never. Sometimes we take a while to do the things that we need to, but we get there. It also talked about gratitude. It was a good conversation. Then the announcement! We have been nominated for Best Podcast by the Sans Bar Academy Awards. It's humbling and a little unbelievable, but we talked through it. We will h...
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Feb. 7, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 207 (Dinner's Served)
This week we have... It's back to your pals, Mike and Bill. We had 3 weeks of great guests and a huge thank you to all of them! But now, it's back to basics. Mike started off with his reading and it was about relationships. We have them now that we are sober and they are not only nice to have, they are critical for us. We need to work at it, but the end result is worth it. It was a good conversation. We talked about a Florida man, the first Groundhog Day, a shout out from a podcast, ...
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Jan. 31, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 206 (Jermaine B. - The Art Of The Autopsy)
This week we have... Jermaine Burse! @jermainedante_art Visual Artist and Published Author (Autopsy of My Former Self)Jermaine is a critically acclaimed visual artist and published author whose rise from sleeping in his car to becoming a globally collected creator shapes the emotional force of his work. His art, held by elite athletes, celebrities, cultural leaders, and major brands, captures human evolution with raw honesty and refined vision. His new book expands that journey and crea...
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Jan. 24, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 205 (Ben F. - Shining A Light On The Shuffle)
This week we have... Benjamin Flaherty. @stoptheshuffle Ben is an Austin-based filmmaker with a diverse collection of work - from documentary and art films with Lou Reed & Julian Schnabel to commercial spots for major brands. His short form PSA’s have been awarded at Cannes, D&AD, One Show and the Clios. His documentary feature debut, Shuffle, won the Grand Jury Prize for Best Feature at the 2025 SXSW Film and Television Festival. We had a great talk with Ben and you don't want to mi...
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Jan. 17, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 204 (Jim O. - Mucking Out Our Stalls)
This week we have... Jim O’Connor. Jim is the founder and executive director of the Second Story Foundation, where he leads long-term recovery and workforce programs for men rebuilding their lives after substance use disorder. After experiencing homelessness and severe alcoholism, O’Connor entered recovery in 2016, an experience that reshaped his life and approach to healing. Drawing on both lived experience and professional training as a Certified Alcohol and Drug Counselor, he develop...
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Jan. 10, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 203 (Your Favorite Time Suck)
This week we have... Change of plans! Jermaine had a family situation and a technology glitch, so he will join us at the end of the month. You are stuck with Mike and Bill and we are determined to be Your Favorite Time Suck. Mike started out with his reading and it was one of our favorites from 24 Hours A Day and from January 6th. We have talked about it before, but we do explain the importance of the reading. We jumped into the show Mad Men, faith and determination, Bill Burr, waste...
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Jan. 3, 2026
SoberNotMature - Episode 202 (Glimmering Old Guys)
This week we have... A New Year with Mike and Bill! Same old stuff, different year. Mike started out with his reading and it was about blame and hiding. We were always good at that before we got sober and it could be an easy trap to fall back into. It was a good conversation. We chatted about some medical stuff, New Year's Resolutions, Dry January, Mike's trip to see classic stuff from MAD Magazine, triggers and glimmers, detaching, expressing your feelings, geographicals, Jim Beam shut...
201
Dec. 27, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 201 (Comparing Ourselves To Others)
This week we have... Same old hosts, different week. Mike started out with his reading and it was about allowing others to give and not being afraid to ask for help. Those can be hard things for people like us and it was a good conversation. There was a horrible (but funny) holiday story, we heard a great quote about fear, talked about faith over fear, the show Brockmire, comparing ourselves to others, and people on the bubble. We also talked about Rob Reiner and his wife. It's a tra...
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Dec. 20, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 200 (Jeremy Pierson - We're His Ellen)
This week we have... Jeremy Pierson - @jeremylpierson - Spiritual Coach & Founder, Practical Spirituality Dedicated to helping people live more consciously, peacefully, and purposefully by applying spiritual principles in everyday life. "Practical Spirituality " explores topics like self-awareness, emotional healing, intuition, energy clearing, and personal transformation - all without the need to adopt someone else's beliefs. We truly enjoyed our conversation with Jeremy and we know th...
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Dec. 13, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 199 (Let's Party Like It's 199)
This week we have... Mike and Bill and no issues with the recording! We have had a great experience with Zencastr in general, but it was nice to be back to "normal." Let's Party Like It's 199! Or just more of the same. Mike started out with his reading and it was about the past. What was it like before we got sober? What did we gain with sobriety? The positives definitely outweigh the negatives and it was a good conversation. We chatted about the break even point, getting results, Di...
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Dec. 13, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 198 (What's The Alternative?)
This week we have... Yep, it's a "normal" week with Mike and Bill. At least it's our version of "normal." Mike started out with his reading and it was about Practicing These Principals In All Our Affairs. Honesty and integrity. Other people being able to count on us and being able to count on ourselves. A great topic and a great conversation. We jumped into how people look at good years and bad years, Danny Trejo, thinking about drinking and slips, a surgery wrap up, Joe Rogan and Jerem...